More BHP

[Posh Johnny]

What mods can be done to increase the BHP to the rear wheel, and what is a good figure to aimfor.
Obviously a full system, but what else, is there an airbox mod, or earthing mod worth looking at

[MY06RSVR]

Flapper mod is meant to increase bhp by 2 to 3bhp and it only takes about 20 seconds to do!! After that it's airbox and PC3..........The best mod I have done doesn't increase bhp but definately increases the rideability and that was to drop to a 15t front sprocket.

[Funners]

What mods can be done to increase the BHP to the rear wheel, and what is a good figure to aimfor.
Obviously a full system, but what else, is there an airbox mod, or earthing mod worth looking at

don't know about the older bikes but 04 onwards..

Flapper mod as said about 20secs to do...
Cans/Map2....deffo worth it
airbox kit....
in terms of performance theres not much between either the Evo kit, the Homer ewe Kit or the Renegade kit....(I've had all three)
I prefer the Renegade kit due to intake noise alone...Oh yeah !:thumbup
PC3 is OK...so long as you have a custom map made for YOUR bike...
the generic maps are fine and a good ball park setting but you really need to have some quality dyno time to get the most....
anything over 130BHP is good, my own graph shows 138RWHP but the Dyno reads high in comparison to others so take that with the proverbial pinch of salt... but it's deffo MUCH better than stock.

15T front and 42/43T rear is excellent....

[shannon]

I just installed the new air box, new cans are on the way, 15t sprocket to be installed, and map 2 once cans are on. But what is the flapper mod?

[BigMille]

What mods can be done to increase the BHP to the rear wheel, and what is a good figure to aimfor.
Obviously a full system, but what else, is there an airbox mod, or earthing mod worth looking at

Check out www.ironbite.de

Also, you need a 44 tooth rear....wow!

[MY06RSVR]

I'm getting a new rear sprocket this week so what size would you suggest, a 42 or 43?
If I went with the 43 would I also require a new chain, I dont really want to go to that expense as the bike has only covered 2k!
My only other thought is if I use the existing chain with a larger rear sprocket will it make the wheelbase too short as it will pull the rear wheel forwards?

Scotty

[Funners]

I just installed the new air box, new cans are on the way, 15t sprocket to be installed, and map 2 once cans are on. But what is the flapper mod?
there is a flap which opens and shuts in the nose intake, it's shut below a certain RPM/Speed threshold, then it opens up....
it's not been provedn conclusivley but the genral consensus is that it's purely a noise reg device to get it thru homologation...
most people disconnect the vacuum hose which controls it to leave it permenantly open.
trace the hose that fits the solenoid on the side of the duct (behind the front fairing), remove the hose, plug the end of it with a bolt....job done...
and of course you can simply re-attach it if you desire to make it OE again !:thumbup

I'm getting a new rear sprocket this week so what size would you suggest, a 42 or 43?
If I went with the 43 would I also require a new chain, I dont really want to go to that expense as the bike has only covered 2k!
My only other thought is if I use the existing chain with a larger rear sprocket will it make the wheelbase too short as it will pull the rear wheel forwards?

Scotty

Scotty, I've fitted a 42 rear with no problems on the stock chain, I've done 6000 miles plus tho...
with you having a 15T front I dont think you'll have any problems with it, as for handling, so long as it's in the chain adjustment marks, you should have no problems at all...:biggrin

[VR-8]

What mods can be done to increase the BHP to the rear wheel, and what is a good figure to aimfor.
Obviously a full system, but what else, is there an airbox mod, or earthing mod worth looking at

Hi everyone! New here but not new to Aprilias.

Why don't you go supercharged........:thumbup...40+bhp
Look in my garage.

/J

[nissn1]

awesome vr8 :hail
oh yeah and welcome :thumbup

[BigMille]

I'm getting a new rear sprocket this week so what size would you suggest, a 42 or 43?
If I went with the 43 would I also require a new chain, I dont really want to go to that expense as the bike has only covered 2k!
My only other thought is if I use the existing chain with a larger rear sprocket will it make the wheelbase too short as it will pull the rear wheel forwards?

Scotty

Go 15/42....

[The_Sav]

How much was the supercharger mod vr-8? you must be one of very few people in the world with a charged RSV

[MASHMAN]

I'm getting a new rear sprocket this week so what size would you suggest, a 42 or 43?
If I went with the 43 would I also require a new chain, I dont really want to go to that expense as the bike has only covered 2k!
My only other thought is if I use the existing chain with a larger rear sprocket will it make the wheelbase too short as it will pull the rear wheel forwards?

Scotty

Hola. I did this mod a couple of months ago and put a 43T on the rear. You can keep the stock chain, JUST, but it does still fit. I do likey it a lot. Allows me to keep the front down as and when i like. Still raises the front in second on power, but to a much more manageable level. Basically i'm a chicken shit. Want the front in the air, add the 15T to the front.

[VR-8]

How much was the supercharger mod vr-8? you must be one of very few people in the world with a charged RSV

$$/bhp is not matched by any other tuning way. The s/ch is around 2000EUR but that is the most expensive part on it, the rest injectors/hoses/brackets etc are not big money. The problem is to get the drive frome the engine.

/J

[JaseRSV]

don't know about the older bikes but 04 onwards..

Flapper mod as said about 20secs to do...
Cans/Map2....deffo worth it
airbox kit....
in terms of performance theres not much between either the Evo kit, the Homer ewe Kit or the Renegade kit....(I've had all three)
I prefer the Renegade kit due to intake noise alone...Oh yeah !:thumbup
PC3 is OK...so long as you have a custom map made for YOUR bike...
the generic maps are fine and a good ball park setting but you really need to have some quality dyno time to get the most....
anything over 130BHP is good, my own graph shows 138RWHP but the Dyno reads high in comparison to others so take that with the proverbial pinch of salt... but it's deffo MUCH better than stock.

15T front and 42/43T rear is excellent....


I've checked on the Renegade site mate and cant find anything about the airbox for the 04 onwards. I was looking at the Homer one but its pricey. How much was you for the Renegade one, and what does it look like? Cheers

[Racer X]

I would sit down and ask myself a few questions first before just taking the bike apart. What are you using the bike for. What kind of HP gains are you wanting.

[MY06RSVR]

http://www.renegade-products.com/renegade/index.html

There you go!

[MASHMAN]

http://www.renegade-products.com/renegade/index.html

There you go!

You've used this on an 06? I've always wondered where white sensor inside the box and the vaccuum pipes live on one of those???

[milleman]

hi all i have an 03 rsv mille, just wondering if there are any easy & relativley cheap mods to crank out a few extra ponies??

MM

[TarkMalbot]

I raced for Renegade on the RSVR and it was fast! They used thier own air kit and exhaust. Tuning done by Southern Cross and it was about 150+ bhp!

My 2006 is putting out 138 with Acro Pipes and Evo Air box.

I have been looking at the "Rapid Bike 3" System instead of the PC3 as it can change fuel injection, the ignition advance and easier to plug in a quick shifter.. Works out much cheaper and is giving just as good if not better results than PC3. The only thing is that Dynojet have such a big set up all over the country.

I might try this Flapper mod thing.. Anyone ever had any problems with it on a 2006 model?

[Funners]

I might try this Flapper mod thing.. Anyone ever had any problems with it on a 2006 model?
you've nowt to loose as even if it does run funny (i've not heard of any that run bad) you can just plugf the vacuum hose back in to re-activate it
:thumbup

[TarkMalbot]

Just thought it might make it run too rich at low revs.

[Funners]

Just thought it might make it run too rich at low revs. Nah....the fuel curve on my dyno run was excellent.....

[TarkMalbot]

Fair E Nuff. I will give it a try.. Off to the Garage to find the little bugger now then.

[Funners]

Fair E Nuff. I will give it a try.. Off to the Garage to find the little bugger now then. remember to plug the hose you remove....:thumbup

[Mizarc]

Ok guys....i have a 2000 mille with sp titanium full exhaust, derestricted airbox, Sp titanium chip. WHat else can i affordably do to make my bike better?

[TarkMalbot]

Power Commander or Rapid Bike 3? Is the Sp chip just to change the fueling for the exhaust system? I think mine is just set on mode 2 with the Acro cans. Dont think it has a chip.

There are engine mods you can do I guess but then its moving away from bolt ons that can be put back to standard..

[hillpiece]

Has the 06 Tuono got this induction flap.

[TarkMalbot]

And how does it work? IE how does the flap work in relation to the Vaccum and revs?

[Mizarc]

What can I do with PC3 or RB3?

[TarkMalbot]

PC3 will allow you to re-map the fueling so that you are running your desired fuel/air ration throughout the rev range. You can add a quick shifter and ignition advance unit but it will cost ya!!

The RB3 does the same thing but you can change the ignition timing with the unti and add a quick shifter. It is modular so you buy the unit and then just need the wiring.

I have been looking into both but haven't decided yet.

[VR-8]

The Ignition Module is not available and is not going to, I have tried for 6months but DynoJet only lists them they never made one. If you want both ignition and fueling buy the RB3. If not go with PCIIIusb.

/J

[Mizarc]

The Ignition Module is not available and is not going to, I have tried for 6months but DynoJet only lists them they never made one. If you want both ignition and fueling buy the RB3. If not go with PCIIIusb.

/J

Goods Results???????? Do you like the difference?

[VR-8]

Goods Results???????? Do you like the difference?

I haven't tried the RB3 but my PCIII works ok.

/J

[froggie]

So I have to ask a question. My last bike (ZX6-R sorry everyone) I had a PC3 on. Now I have had 3 conversations with 3 dealers. One in Chelmsford in Essex told me to have them re-program the chip on my bike (01/02 RSV-R) as that's the best thing to do. Southern Cross said not to bother, to put it on a Dyno if I want to know but all that is worth doing is having them balance the cylinders and the last (I forget who) told me to get a PC3. By the way the other two mentioned dealers told me a PC3 is a waste of time. My bike is pretty standard, Giannelli twin cans, Renegade air box and lots of weight saving carbon. Anyone got an idea on which of the 3 a right. :O
Although I have to point out, the best performance enhancement I can think of is to go on a fucking diet!! Lose 10 kg off your gut and it would make a hell of a difference. :thumbup

[TarkMalbot]

Don at Southern Cross knws his stuff. He raced in the Supertwinsand is the sound of thunder champion. His race bike will be one of the fastest Milles about and if he says not to bother with a PC3 I wouldn't. You might get some improvements but I think for the money thats why its not worth doing.

My race bike had a PC3 but a standard exhaust. I fitted a set of Micron headers and took it to get re-mapped. It got another 6bhp just by changing the fueling! I guess it depends on the bike.

[carbon kid]

Froggie my boy, get a S/h PC111 and a custom map, than we'll see whos the fastest!!!. Dont bother with the chip.

[froggie]

6mph mate, perhaps I will go on a diet!! Or add some teeth!! :biggrin

[carbon kid]

get some practice in on yer trackday mate and run 15/46!!!!!!!

[froggie]

I wonder if anyone has run that?! I think i would fall off the back every time I pulled away?!

[cwalker]

in our workshop, we've seen plenty of bad stuff( from small to major problems... major as in 2 f*cked engines because someone had been playing with the ignition module rb..) on rsv's which had rapid bike modules installed.


we've always refused to install them and always will. no problems with the pc3's..

[carbon kid]

I wonder if anyone has run that?! I think i would fall off the back every time I pulled away?!

Frogglet matey, bloke I sold my brembos too rand 15/46 on the track, said it still gave him a 150 top end:thumbup

[Zeusha]

Hey, does anyone make a kit for the supercharger for the bike or is it mostly a custom thing. I think my bike is as strong as its gonna get with just BPU's. I wanna bring the bike week in Ohio something they have'nt seen before ... (or not that many times for that matter) and a blown Factory ... gotta be rare! If anyone can help with any info, I really appreciate it

[carbon kid]

Hey, does anyone make a kit for the supercharger for the bike or is it mostly a custom thing. I think my bike is as strong as its gonna get with just BPU's. I wanna bring the bike week in Ohio something they have'nt seen before ... (or not that many times for that matter) and a blown Factory ... gotta be rare! If anyone can help with any info, I really appreciate it

whats BPU's mate and how strong is strong?

[Zeusha]

(Basic Performance Upgrades) - Powercommander III, evoluzione airbox, dragon blaster coil and spark wires, denso iridium spark plugs)

[TarkMalbot]

6mph mate, perhaps I will go on a diet!! Or add some teeth!! :biggrin

What you may not have understood there is that the bike had a PC3 fitted and was making 109 bhp at the back wheel after I fitted the new exhaust with the mapping that was on the bike when I bought it.

Just by changing the mapping to a custom map to suit my new headers I got another 6 bhp on top! Thats my 600 putting out 113bhp at the back wheel. I dont think there are many other mods you can do to give you 6bhp without actually replacing any components.